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peg
Quote:Originally posted by Peg541:
[b]Adrienne I can certainly see your point. I just worry that in the heat of a reaction, watching your child get worse and worse, I worry some parents might do a BIG jab.
Maybe I wish they could come up with less violent terms than swing and jab. Silly of me really.
As a matter of fact I had my daughter practice on an orange so she could be prepared if her brother ever needed her help. She was really reluctant and ended up going right through the orange.
All that pen needs is a bit of pressure to trigger and I guess that's why I object to the word jab.
Peg[/b]
and I can see your point [img]http://uumor.pair.com/nutalle2/peanutallergy/smile.gif[/img]
wow...right through the orange?
I guess most people think of scenes in movies/tv where they have the adrenaline shot going into someone's chest and they are straddling the person on the floor...holding the adrenaline shot in 2 hands above their head...then slamming it down into the person's chest!
Let's see ---- I guess I am more of a "swift shove" or "swift aimed forceful downward movement" --- like sticking a tack pin into a sheet rock wall...if you want it to go in one motion, you gotta be swift and forceful, but if you swing and jab too hard you'll push the tack too far into the wall and make a permanent mark.
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30-something survivor of severe peanut/tree nut allergy
She really went thru the orange into the counter. She was SO AGAINST trying it out and I persisted. My son was really angry at me saying I was being mean but I really felt I was just being persistent. I guess if both kids were angry then I WAS mean.
If she and he are alone and he reacts and can't do the epi too bad if they are angry at me. DD will now be able to do the epi and that's all I need. DS around a bunch of more years.
Peg
You know, I rarely come into this forum, but happened in here today. I'm glad I did. Reading about the epi going through the orange into the counter got me thinking about how that would work on a kid. My son is 7 and due to weight just got shifted from an Epi Jr. to a regular Epipen. If the needle is long enough to go straight through an orange, where is it gonna go in a kids leg?
Peg, I saw that you said your son has had to use an Epi a few times, were any of those times when he was younger? If so, what happened?
Oh no the reason the epi went thru the orange was my DD was so reluctant to do it. She pushed so hard because she was so angry, the orange shifted and she injected the edge and kept pushing until it went thru totally.
Yes my son gave himself epi but not until his first reaction at 14. He's the kind of kid who believes in instructions and rules so he had the instr. down pat. He just did what he knew he had to.
He yelped "OW" but he just kept at it.
He was trained to use it since age 5 but never had a reaction till 14.
Peg
Thanks Peg for clarifying. I was a bit surprised. The Epi needles I've seen (including the one I used on myself) have been about an inch--or just under.
Amyd
i have one more extra trainer I will send to you, email me with your address.
I am also glad for the clarification. I was kind of worried for a minute -- well, more than I normally am.
Also, my DS was asking about being on his own when he grew up last night. For some reason at 7, he was feeling a bit scared about what life was going to be like for him as an adult (you'd think that could wait a couple more years). Anyway, Peg, I told him about your DS. He seemed to find some comfort in the bits that I could remember about the things your son has done -- and especially that he grew up with PA and is now an adult, doing things on his own, including administering his own Epi when he needed it. It really saved me at bedtime! After that episode last night, it made me think that FA mentorship could be a really good thing!
This board has been a good resource for me countless times. And I've shown several things to DS. But I hadn't thought to talk to him about the adults who used to be kids with PA--like Peg's son or Adrienne. I don't know why. And it's not like Adrienne doesn't intentionally jump in with good examples for this.
Really good idea gvmom.
hi everyone
my daughter is 15 with mfa and she has administered it herself adn i have given it to her, she definately perfres someone else giving it to her, but she was at camp one summer and she sadi they were reading the directions as she is swelling, so she grabbed it and gave it to her self. i place on leg and hold frimly, i do not jab (not saying any way is right) the jab i think scares her, we always joke about a lady that gave her one nearly getting a running start.
Adele--- we have done through the jeans many times just watch the seam
staci (mom of kim)
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