This may be significant

Posted on: Thu, 04/10/2003 - 3:58am
river's picture
Joined: 07/15/1999 - 09:00

American residents please take note: Found this link which may possibly be an indication of a partnership between the National Association of Elementary School Principals and The National Peanut Board.


(If your school is not helpful, you should know why.)

Posted on: Thu, 04/10/2003 - 5:28am
erik's picture
Joined: 05/15/2001 - 09:00

I can hear the X-Files music in the background... doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doooooooooooo [img][/img]

Posted on: Thu, 04/10/2003 - 5:37am
Gail W's picture
Joined: 12/06/2001 - 09:00

I'm always amazed at your ability to find articles. I always read your posts. Thanks for finding and posting them.
I read this one, and I don't get it. Can you explain how you see a possible relationship between the National Peanut Board and the Nat'l Assoc of Elementary School Principals?

Posted on: Thu, 04/10/2003 - 5:55am
erik's picture
Joined: 05/15/2001 - 09:00

Hi Gail,
That's why I heard the X-Files music in the background. I don't see any direct link to the National Peanut Board either. But anything's possible these days.... We need Mulder & Sculley to investigate! [img][/img]
(hmmm.. or is it the theme from Mary Poppins?!) hehe [img][/img]
[This message has been edited by erik (edited April 10, 2003).]

Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2003 - 1:07am
river's picture
Joined: 07/15/1999 - 09:00

Oh erik---you just keep tra-la-la-ing in your erik rainbow world and leave the dark side to us who were born to it. Let me also remind you Mr.Disneyland, Fox Mulder was right. Do-do-do-dooooo!
My thoughts were that it may possibly a PR thing---but I certainly acknowledge that it also may be a coincidence.
The National Association of Elementary School Principals was one of the organizations on the NPB's list of "allies to help communicate the nutritional benefits of US peanuts and peanut butter." They were looking to this group and others to "develop marketing contracts for furture programs..."
These quotes are from page 6 of their July 2002 Annual Report.

Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2003 - 3:43am
erik's picture
Joined: 05/15/2001 - 09:00

Quote:Originally posted by river:
[b]Let me also remind you Mr.Disneyland, Fox Mulder was right. Do-do-do-dooooo![/b]
Mr. Disneyland? I thought Disney Corporation was the dark side!!! I'd trust Fox Mulder more than Disney. Anyway, thanks for posting the article.
Actually, I do believe in some conspiracies too... like they say, you can't believe everything you see on tv.... so keep on posting those articles you find. The truth is out there. do do do do do doooooooo [img][/img]

Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2003 - 4:52am
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Joined: 03/26/2002 - 09:00

River , I have to admit that from the quick scan I gave this , it may just be that the woman eats and enjoys peanut butter, I love it and so does my hubby , wish we could have it our house.
You have to admit that on the whole , as a food it does have some health benifits. Its just that some allergic people look like the back end of a baboon when they get near the stuff!!!
I believe that some manufactuers are more of a worry, nestle for instance. A couple of years i really wanted to stop buying there products. ( but how could I stop my son from enjoying the few safe treats avaliable for him, like smarties?)
I heard of their appalling behaviour with their infant formula.
How they sent a faulty batch of formula that had been contaminated with a strain of food poisioning and sent all recalled tins to the third world countries.
Nothing like encouraging the poor to give up breastfeeding and spend money on formula, when they dont have any safe water supplies, no one is going to notice a few deaths from food poisoning if they dont have a safe supply of water anyway!!
The deaths from bottlefeeding in ill equiped countries is far higher than the deaths from peanut allergy, far higher than any supposed crime that the manufacturers of peanuts have ever done.
I believe that formula does the the job it was invented for , saving babies lives, but for the majority of infantsin the third world , breastfeeding is the only chance they have to survive.
I think that our best chance for our children is clearer food labeling, working towards the issue of cross contamination with manufactuers , explaining that there is a good market for them with nut free foods.
peanuts will always be grown, and sold, and eaten. Its a food, its a good food, and it does bring in the money.
this item is hardly significant, its just a womans personal taste.

Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2003 - 6:44am
river's picture
Joined: 07/15/1999 - 09:00

Hi Sarah,
If there is a contract with the Principals Association then I think there is a real problem here. Your talking about the specific targeting of people in power over children because they have this power. Your talking about buying people to keep peanut butter in school regardless of the dangers. Your talking about manipulating the attitude of a group of people who PA children depend on as helpful advocates. This is ethically abhorrent to me. It's certainly a whole lot more subtle than sending poison baby formula to the third world, but it is just as immoral and could possibly result in deaths also.
You don't seem to believe that keeping peanuts etc. out of schools keeps children safer and reduces the number of PA deaths. This is not rocket science to me. Of course it does. Why wouldn't it. You tell me Nathan Walters wouldn't be alive today if his school was not serving pb.
I don't know how many times I have to repeat this but----I am NOT against the NPB pushing peanuts---that's what they are supposed to be doing, (have you noticed Coronation Street has a contract and I'm not gonna stop watching that.) What I think is disgusting is what appears to be their attempts to control and distort information around peanut allergies, and to push the product into schools and onto children.
In the end polecats never win---of that I'm sure----but in the meantime---my concern here today and every day is the number of children they may be doing harm to with what I feel are their unscrupulous and underhanded marketing strategies. And I'm not just talking about what you lightly describe as making them "look like the back end of a baboon",----I'm talking about the deadly possiblities.

Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2003 - 2:10pm
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river, your last post was amazingly worded and right on! [img][/img]
I'll have to check out the link you provided tomorrow. It's just past The Witching Hour and I should be in my bed. Everyone here knows I go into babble speak after midnight.
No, that was an awesome post. [img][/img]
Best wishes! [img][/img]

Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2003 - 2:21pm
MommaBear's picture
Joined: 09/23/2002 - 09:00

so would you say similiar things about the "milk campaign"?

Posted on: Fri, 04/11/2003 - 7:25pm
williamsmummy's picture
Joined: 03/26/2002 - 09:00

River ,
I am not against keeping peanuts out of schools, far from it. I still work with my son's school to reduce the risk. Keeping 'may contains' out of school seems to me to be a impossible task. What am I going to do?, stand by the school doors every morning and check everyones lunch box? Then what do I do if a parent has committed the 'sin' of giving their child a chocolate biscuit bar with a 'may contain' label?
My son is touch reactive, I am sure that if in contact with this bar , he will have a reaction. But William is 7 now and fully capable of washing his hands after lunch,and avoiding contact with others around him . I have watched him during school meal time, and William seems to instinctively use avoidance measures without promting.
The staff have all been educated not just by me , but by the school nurse and letters from Williams consultant, Dr Gideon Lack, and of course information and videos from the anaphylaxis campaign.
Nathan walters death was caused by a catalouge of mistakes at every level, not just the fact that he was served PB.
I am a member of the 'food jury' here in the UK. This is a campaign run by parents against the advertising of unhealthy foods aimed at children and the standard of food that manufactuers aim for children.
Allergies aside , peanut butter is one of the most healthy foods aimed for children.
I am against the large companys such as macdonalds , pepsi serving there products /advertising in or near schools.
Thankfully many education authorites in this country, although tempted by the large amount of money , they have refused the offers.
Still, campaigns such as walkers crisps s have advertising campaigns that offer school equipment through a token collection scheme. It works, and many schools are now asking parents to bring in these tokens, which of course leads to more children eating high fat /salt food.
I am against any advertising in schools.
There are some really good campaigns aimed at children, the national lottery board are giving a large sum of money to supply free fruit for every school in the country, I fully support them, am I going to start to campaign against them because I have a son with a life threatening fruit allergy?
No I am not.
As for my light hearted comment, put that down to my ironic british sense of humour, I do not enjoy harping on the fact that my son has a higher rating than last year for peanut and beans, that his reactions are getting worse. Finding a way to make light of such a miserable, frightening prospect, is just my way of coping, and yes he does go as red as a baboons backside, but so far , he has not stopped breathing.


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